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Browns Trade for Corey Williams

According the the Plain Dealer, Corey Williams is the newest member of the Cleveland Browns. Williams will be joining the Browns in exchange for a second round draft choice, contingent on the Browns’ signing of Williams to a multi-year deal.

When a team’s run defense consistently ranks anywhere in the high twenties and thirties in the entire league for multiple years in a row, it is time to do something to change the look of the defense. Bringing in a 6 foot 4 inch 320 pound monster of a defensive end who is known for his “speed” in getting to the QB, you are headed in the right direction.

The Browns traded their second round pick, which was the only pick they had left in the first two rounds because of the trade they made with Dallas last year to get Brady Quinn. What this tells me is that Phil Savage is expecting to pick up a first and third round draft pick when someone signs Derek Anderson.

This is good news all the way around. Derek Anderson might go on to do great things, but then again he might fall flat. Obviously, Phil Savage feels like DA was a product of the system that Rob Chudzinski installed for the Browns’ offense this season. All Browns fans can do is hope that he is right. There will be no QB controversy this year. Brady Quinn is your new starting QB. He will do battle with one of the best offensive lines, and hopefully a defense that can compete more consistently than the one that was on the field last year.

LZ Granderson Uses Brady Quinn Unfairly for Gay Agenda

LZ Granderson is a sports writer for ESPN’s Page 2. He wrote a long article filled with misdirection, emotional manipulation and speculation about Brady Quinn and how he wants a longer investigation into an alleged incident involving the word “faggot” outside of a bar in Columbus on New Year’s eve.

To start the article, Granderson talks about a scary situation from the NBA’s All-Star weekend where he was gay bashed and physically assaulted.

As I walked by the group of men — on my way to the Playboy party, no less — one of them called me a faggot. Then another joined in. They followed me for a while, continuing to hurl names at me. I tried to ignore it but eventually the “Detroit” came out of me and I turned around and said some things I probably shouldn’t have. Next thing I know I’m surrounded and wondering if I’m going to see the dawn and if not for a pair of New Orleans policemen who saw trouble brewing and yelled at the group to break it up, I might not have.

Now, I know that situation sounds scary. I would be terrified in that situation too. There is no reason why anyone should have to put up with the kind of bigotry described in that paragraph. But look at how it reads. Granderson blatantly calls out the word he was called and yet refers to the things he said as “things I probably shouldn’t have.” Now, I have no reason not to believe Granderson’s story, but the fact is that it is a one-sided account which leaves out any details of the things that might have been hateful that spewed out of Granderson’s mouth. What were those “things” he probably shouldn’t have said?

Now, I wouldn’t have a problem with this story normally because columnists write their one-sided opinions all the time. It is their job as a columnist to do so. They are looking to make you think about the stuff that they are saying and usually they want you to agree with them. The problem I have is that Granderson goes on to use this story to talk about why he thinks the Brady Quinn situation should be investigated further.

I will remind you that the Brady Quinn situation involved some people in a shared parking lot between a restaurant and a gay bar. According to the reports from that, a man called 9-1-1 saying that Brady Quinn was part of a group that was yelling gay slurs at him and other people.

The story of Quinn and his alleged night of gay bashing is filled with sketchy details at best.

  • The incident happened on New Years and the story didn’t come out until February 13th.
  • Some guy named Harris calls 9-1-1 to report the incident, but Quinn was fighting with a dude named Thompson.
  • When the cops showed Quinn was cooperative.
  • Thompson was arrested for refusing police orders.
  • Harris was contacted later and said that Quinn “wasn’t as involved as” others.
  • Harris also told the press later of Quinn, “He was standing back and letting his friends do most of it.”

And those are all the details on the case. That is what was uncovered by the press, and the police. Don’t you think if there was something more substantial there that it might have come out?

But apparently this amount of information isn’t good enough for LZ Granderson on ESPN’s Page 2. He goes on to talk about Brady Quinn and Mathew Shepard in the same paragraph. Let’s take this down a notch, please. We have a guy who might or might not have said anything at all in a verbal altercation (Quinn) in a parking lot and that is being contrasted with the most brutal hate-fueled gay bashing murder in the history of the United States. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I think that is a tad bit unfair.

And don’t think for a second that I am some knuckle-dragging, anti-gay, blogger with the opposite agenda of Granderson. I do support gay rights and think that bigotry should be handled appropriately. Speaking of which, Granderson also talks about Tim Hardaway’s incident from last year where Hardaway ranted about not liking gay people on the radio. Does Granderson forget that Tim Hardaway was excused from all NBA activities that he had been invited to take part in? Does Granderson forget that Tim Hardaway was also fired from his job with the CBA’s Indiana Alley Cats.

This isn’t to say that this nation is where it needs to be in terms of acceptance of gay people, but I think Tim Hardaway is a good example of the kinds of reactions that we should expect to see when someone proves themselves to be a bigot.

And maybe Brady Quinn has a problem with bigotry too. I don’t know. I wasn’t at the scene of this alleged incident. I can’t see inside Brady Quinn’s heart to know how he feels. What I do know is that he issued a flat denial of the incident. I know that there is a sketchy account on 9-1-1. I know that the other party involved in the alleged fight was the one who got arrested. I know that Quinn cooperated and was not arrested. I know that it took a long time for this article to come out, which usually means someone was digging for something bigger and didn’t find anything.

What we are left with is a legitimate agenda being pushed forward in a dishonest manner at the expense of an athlete with no prior record of wrong-doing. That seems almost as unfair as being attacked in the street for no apparent reason. I don’t even have a problem with Granderson wanting further investigation into Quinn’s activities, but does he have to use evidence like the attack he received over the weekend and Mathew Shepard as evidence to do it? It seems highly overstated to me when we are talking about a he-said he-said incident on one of the drunkest nights of the year and little, to no substantial evidence to prove one way or another what happened that night.

Brady Quinn Part of Rowdy Group Insulting Gays?

According to an article on, Brady Quinn was a part of a crowd outside of a bar in Columbus during New Years festivities.

On the 9-1-1 call, Harris said that “Brady Quinn from the Browns” was “trying to cause a fight.” Harris told the operator, “I just walked outside and he exchanged many profanities with me and called me a faggot, of course.”

Anyway, so what is the deal with this whole thing? The answer is that nobody except those who were there on the night that it happened have any idea.

The bottom line is this. Brady Quinn used good judgment in stopping any kind of fight when the cops got there. No matter what he did wrong prior to that point will probably never ever be an issue because he was smart enough to not get arrested. Or, maybe he was just famous enough to not get arrested. Either way, this was a potentially ugly situation and since it is mid-February and we are just hearing about it now, means that it probably isn’t that big of a story.

Also, when it comes to slurs, I will say this. You shouldn’t use them as we all know. Still, when you get into a fight that is escalating and you are looking to throw a punch at someone, most situations I have ever seen have had slurs thrown around. Drunk guys who want to fight each other will always say offensive things about each other. These two guys want to bash each other’s brains out, so why wouldn’t they want to go and insult the very foundations of the people they are?

And I won’t get into it in depth here, but isn’t this why the “hate crime” laws are a bit scary? When I think of a hate crime, I think of a lynching or something pre-meditated where there is a 3 on 1 ratio of attackers to victims with clear racial implications. A bunch of drunk people in the parking lot of a couple of bars and restaurants resulting in a one-on-one fight, even with a slur thrown out of some sort, doesn’t sound like a hate crime to me. Being investigated, accused or charged with a sex crime in Las Vegas is nothing less than devastating in terms of the possible lifelong ramifications. Just being accused of a sex crime is enough to spin your entire life into turmoil. If you’ve been accused of a sex crime or you have been abused sexually, you have one option and that is to contact an experienced Sex Crimes Defense Attorney in Las Vegas to assist you in fighting the charges.

Anyway, I don’t have to worry about it because I have talked my way out of every fight I ever could have potentially been in.

When someone says, “Yo, I will kick your ass.” I usually say, “OK. So what? You probably would.”

So, the bottom line is this. We don’t know what Brady Quinn said, any more than we know what this dude who called 9-1-1 actually said. It is hearsay at best. Quinn and his boys didn’t get arrested. That is the end of it and Quinn should probably do his best to avoid situations like this one ever again.

The real surprising quote from the article is this.

La Fogata Grill owner Jeff Rinehart said Quinn’s group, which he said included about a dozen people — half men, half women — did not cause any problems while drinking inside his restaurant on New Year’s Eve.

“The only issue was trying to get everyone’s checks figured out,” he said.

Quinn has NFL money and he isn’t picking up the tab? What could it have possibly been? $500? $1000? $5000?

Even at $5000 I would expect mister first round draft pick to pick up that tab. Dude has NFL money! Come on Brady. Use better judgement and treat your peeps to some drinks.

Cleveland Sports Curse Podcast – 2008-01-12

This week we were live on 1540 KNR2. As we were talking about the Browns’ vacated Defensive coordinator job, they promoted Mel Tucker from within the organization. We talked about Derek Anderson and his being named the starter for next season. We talked about the Buckeyes and their problems in the national championship game.

If you want to subscribe to the podcast via iTunes, click here.

Trust Phil Savage When It Comes to Derek Anderson

As we move into the off-season here in Cleveland Browns land, there is going to be a whole lot of debate about what the Browns should do regarding their breakout QB Derek Anderson. Should the Browns trade him? Should the Browns give him a qualifying offer and let him leave in exchange for future first and third round picks? Should the Browns put the franchise tag on him? Should the Browns sign him to a rich long-term deal?

There is no way to know for sure as a fan, what the Browns should do. That’s why I think this one should come down to whether you trust Phil Savage or not.

If you do, you should just leave it up to him. Nobody in the world other than Derek Anderson’s father knows DA better than Phil Savage. Savage did all the home work on him from the start when he made his way to Baltimore. Savage was the one who claimed him off of waivers when the Ravens tried to sneak him onto their practice squad to free up a roster spot. Savage was the one who pulled the trigger on trading Charlie Frye after one game, paving the way for DA to get his shot this year.

So trust in Savage to know what the proper gamble is on his future success. DA had a nice first season and the Browns will definitely make a qualifying offer so that they will be compensated if another team comes in and offers him a contract. Now, depending on how rich that contract is, I expect Savage to make the decision whether to keep DA, or let him leave and give Brady Quinn a shot.

At this point, as a fan, I guess I would prefer to see both DA and Brady Quinn on the roster when they start training camp next summer, but if the cost becomes to prohibitive, I expect that the Browns will benefit no matter what. Either they get DA to play QB at a high level in Cleveland, or they get some other team’s first and third round picks, or if they trade him they are selling the Derek Anderson stock at a pretty high point.

There really isn’t anything wrong with any of the three scenarios. These are all good problems to have and I expect Phil Savage to make the right choices in solving them.

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